more if Billy hadn’t tried to pretend he wasn’t producing the album with Teddy. I don’t like underhanded shit. I don’t like saying one thing and doing another.
But I was also the drummer in a successful rock band that everybody was saying was headed to the top of the charts. I’ve always had a good sense of perspective. If I do say so, myself.
Rod: That’s when the whispering started. Everybody stopped talking to each other and all started whispering to me.
Karen would say, “He took out my keys and he didn’t even run it by me.”
And I’d say, “You have to talk to him about it.”
And she wouldn’t.
And Pete would say that the record was too soft now. That he was embarrassed by it. And I’d say, “Talk to Billy about it.”
I’d say to Billy, “You need to talk to your bandmates.”
He’d say, “If they want to talk to me, they’ll talk to me.”
And everybody’s wondering when Daisy’s coming back, but I’m the only one willing to try to track her down.
Graham: It was a strange reminder that things were changing. That we weren’t the same band we were a few years ago. A few years ago, if Billy was going to rerecord Eddie’s tracks, he would have talked to me about it. He would have bounced the idea off of me. Instead, he was talking to Teddy. But that was true of a lot of things between Billy and me. I had Karen. He had Camila and his girls. And when he wanted to talk about ideas … well, at least throughout the recording of Aurora … he had Daisy. I’m not going to say I was feeling like Billy didn’t need me anymore. That’s dramatic. But maybe I was feeling like we weren’t a team all the time anymore. That we’d outgrown that.
You know, I think a lot of how I defined myself was in relation to him. I always—my whole life until around that point—I always felt like Billy Dunne’s little brother. And that was when it occurred to me that he probably never defined himself as Graham Dunne’s older brother. Would never have thought to.
Billy: In hindsight, I can see why they were mad. But I don’t regret any work I did on that album. The work speaks for itself.
Karen: It’s so complicated. Was the album our best one because Billy was forced to let us in on the composing and arranging from the outset? I think so. Was it the best one because Billy ultimately took the reins back? Because Teddy knew when to make Billy listen to other ideas and when to let him run the show? Was it only the best because of Daisy? I have no idea. I spent a lot of time thinking about it and I have no idea.
But when you’re a part of something as big as that album ended up being … you want to know if you were an integral part. You want to believe they couldn’t have done it without you. Billy never did put much effort into making everyone feel integral.
Billy: All bands have trouble with this stuff. You know how hard it is to get this many people to agree on anything this subjective?
Artie Snyder: I heard little inklings of grief, later. That some of the band weren’t happy with the changes. Or maybe the way the changes were handled. But I thought it was sort of odd, the way everyone was getting upset at Billy as if he was in charge. Teddy was in charge. If Billy redid Eddie’s tracks, it’s because Teddy thought Billy should redo the tracks. I never once saw Billy do anything Teddy wasn’t backing.
I even made a joke once, when Teddy was out of the room. Billy had wanted to take out the Dobro on some song but Teddy wanted it in. When Teddy was gone, I said, “Should we just go ahead and take it out and see if he notices?”
Billy shook his head, really serious. He said, “Biggest hit we’ve had was a song I thought I hated. Teddy’s the only one that saved it.” He said, “If it comes down to his opinion or my opinion, we go with his opinion.”
Simone: I finally got Daisy to agree to buy a plane ticket to be back in L.A. for the start of rehearsals.
Daisy: When I told Nicky that it was time for me to go back to L.A., he wasn’t very supportive. The band had to